(first message in the thread)
after a long time MC and his gf finally arrive at the hotel (in an old castle) in some "small Eastern European country" in some remote location, and MC and his girlfriend decide to roleplay... a medieval witch hunt (?) where MC pretends to be a priest and pushes the gf who's dressed in this white dress into the church's stained glass, while accusing her of being a witch(edited)
gf asks if he's gonna continue the roleplay but then MC comes to the conclusion that the roleplay wasn't the reason why they got dressed like that and instead he reaches for the pocket, only to realize there's nothing in there and runs to the anteroom
7:16 PM
(wasn't said yet why but I'm gonna assume because he wants to propose with a ring)
so yeah apparently this guy, named Vlad Damythf the Second (looked this up from vndb because I'd never guess by attempting to dekatakanize-ing it), was a great badass feudal lord and the castle prospered the most during his reign(edited)
9:49 PM
MC assumes the other portrait is about the witch hunt
9:49 PM
but Yuki asks why would they have it in the dining hall
9:53 PM
but no, it's apparently the queen, Chlerna (again, looking up the name from vndb), as according to the website MC is using(edited)
9:55 PM
why would the queen be executed on a witch hunt? the site doesn't tell
10:01 PM
they speculate for a bit and then for a brief moment we get a black screen and a girl's laugh
after a discussion where they ended up agreeing that the return is indeed necessary, MC decides to go back to Japan too, which is a perfectly logical conclusion actually no, they promise each other that they'll go to hot springs in Japan instead later on and she'll indulge him(edited)
12:18 AM
like you literally go for multiple days to some extra luxurious hotel together with your gf, in order to propose, and she can't really be with you(edited)
"noooo, Yuki, don't leave me alone in this hotel in the middle of nowhere where the ghost of the dead woman will possess me and turn me into a woman too"(edited)
1:07 AM
(actually dunno if this is the actual trigger for it, but yes, he will get turned into a woman eventually)
so if I understood correctly the girl takes one of my hands and brings it to her chest, and the boy takes the other and brings it to his crotch?
and then my own crotch starts being weirdly hot and then I'm given the choice whether to submit or attempt to run away
11:10 AM
I have low confidence in whether I understood this correctly
11:12 AM
anyway I picked the run away choice because it's a fairly reasonable to run away from a supernatural being in my dream
mlem-chan
the choice seems to be about whether to get angry, or whether to go "oh well, it's just how it is" (edited)
oh yeah when MC regains consciousness he's in this position, which is ngl pretty amazing, I'd expect the girl to dom him instead(edited)
12:51 PM
MC wants to run away but for some reason can't
12:53 PM
he feels like he's frozen in there
12:56 PM
why the fuck are they censoring "omanko" (pussy) as "oma*ko" and "ochinchin" (penis) as "ochi*nchin" if they spell out properly in the audio lines(edited)
okay since I'm not really interested with still-male MC having sex I tried digging out another machine translator and it worked better
1:59 PM
and only briefly checking the individual words
2:01 PM
most of the dialogue is like "I can feel the sensation of semen overflowing, turning into pleasure." (the MTL result) so yeah not really interested
2:04 PM
okay the girl goes all how nice it would be if this kept forever
2:08 PM
and now they're like "okay now that you had sex with her from now on you'll start comparing with the other people whether the sex was better or worse" and like, lol, nice job at trapping him
for the most part this one seems to handle it pretty well
2:17 PM
it's the manga where MTL sucks because it's all short lines where half of the context is visible only on the pictures
2:19 PM
「ぼくたちは、キミのことがきにいったんだ。とっても。だから、いっぱい、いっぱい、あそびたい。いっしょにね」
「We came to listen to you. Very much. That's why we want to play lots and lots. Together.」
not "listen", "ki ni iru" means "like/be satisfied with"
2:23 PM
okay there's another one where it fucks up
2:24 PM
okay so now they're trying to say how he must have had lots of (sex) experiences while being a man and it's gonna get boring and tedious but there is still one way
okay so he is so immersed in sex he didn't understand what they were talking about, and then he cummed and after that something went into his uretha(edited)
okay so after the whole round of the girl playing with MC's prostate, he noticed that weirdly enough he keeps feeling the pleasure despite his dick not even being erect, so he looks down and notices his crotch area glowing(edited)
3:15 PM
and then we get the womb tattoo
3:20 PM
womb tattoo spreads all over the body
3:21 PM
「今、キミは生まれ変わろうとしてるだけだから」
3:21 PM
「新しい……本当の、アナタに」
3:22 PM
"Right now, you're just getting reborn..."
"...into a new, true you"
3:25 PM
3:26 PM
3:26 PM
giwtwm
3:26 PM
just before this happens, MC calls out the name of his gf
3:27 PM
3:28 PM
end of act 2 (I think, there's no numeration, but we got the game logo for the second time)
3:28 PM
I assume we woke up from the dream
3:29 PM
protagonist gains a voice
3:30 PM
and we all know what that means
3:33 PM
so yeah we woke up from the dream and we feel terrible
3:36 PM
MC recalls the dream and thinks Yuki going back must have weighed on him heavily and also the details on the dream
3:36 PM
and he's like "tentacles? what is this, a porn manga?"
3:42 PM
MC cleans up after a wet dream, goes to wash his face and brush teeth
okay so she's on the airport and dealing with their equivalent of TSA and shit
5:46 PM
stuff you need to do before boarding the plane
5:49 PM
she asks how's it going here, and that she'll make it up later, and she's really, really, really sorry about this
5:50 PM
my commentary: "so, ummmm, how's it going? I cheated on you in my dream with some weird devil twins, I totally tried to resist tho, and also I think this hotel's influence is turning me into a girl"(edited)
MC concludes that maybe Yuki didn't really have any weird stuff with her body, and that while there's a chance she just didn't say it like MC, there's also the possibility that the dreams are the cause of it
6:25 PM
he thinks this is ridiculous but can't dismiss it because of what was the part of those dreams
he wonders if confronting the twins and asking them to turn him back will work, but then realizes that it's more probable that they'll change him even more
oh hey we get the Damythf guy there in the dream world and our MC looks like the woman on the other pic(edited)
7:47 PM
let me guess, our MC and him are gonna have sex
7:48 PM
oh hey, somehow despite MC attempting to think and speak in Japanese, the words that come out are in different language
7:48 PM
how very convenient to the hentai logic
7:53 PM
MC is understandably confused, the other guy introduces himself as Vlad Damythf and asks MC for their name, and conveniently we hear a voice of the twins
7:53 PM
"your name is Mia"
7:57 PM
MC turns around, sees the twins and becomes angry at them, obviously
7:58 PM
and that there's no way they'd have a girly name like "Mia" because their true name is...
and somehow MC finds themselves unable to say it
7:59 PM
actually even unable to even think of it
8:00 PM
MC attempts to bring up a bunch of other names but none of them are theirs
after some exchange MC starts to angrily asking to be turned back and the Damythf guy is like "no I can't allow that"
8:10 PM
okay I love this utter sass MC does
8:11 PM
the girl calls MC out for being rude and he's like "do you think appearing in someone's dreams and turning them into a woman isn't rude, eeeeeh??"
8:13 PM
also I'm gonna attempt to predict the plot: the guy's gf/wife got executed so he actually made contract with the demons to summon a gf like her, and the demons did it by somehow pulling the guy from the future and GBing him
yeah so basically this is the plan, of getting someone who looks like his wife, and say that's the true witch(edited)
9:30 PM
and uhhhhh
9:30 PM
are they gonna kill MC
9:31 PM
also yeah there was this story of how it happened that led the guy's wife to being accused of being a witch, but I accidentally skimmed it over and didn't get the important parts of it
(I'll go back to it if it becomes important)(edited)
okay yeah and MC goes "so are you gonna place me on the witch trial? I'll fucking die"
9:36 PM
and the guy goes on that MC won't die, she just has to prove her innocence in the witch trial (so yeah, he's totally gonna die because, well, you know)(edited)
oh, we get more into the lore: the guy thinks MC is gonna fare better at the witch trial because the inquisition will keep asking leading questions and stuff and his wife is too naive and good natured to see these through(edited)
10:17 PM
so yeah I guess the plan was to find someone who would fare better at witch trial, and looks like the guy's wife, and the guy was desperate so he got the devil's help which then in order to do that summoned a random guy from the future and GB'd him specifically to look like that guy's wife
10:19 PM
this leaves the question of "why does force femming him in the dream also force fems him IRL"
mlem-chan
damn the devil's voices are so easy on the ears, I would totally get feminized by them (edited)
"okay so what happens if I refuse", asks MC, and gets a reply of "I'll tie you and throw you to the dungeon"
8:24 AM
still no idea why it was easier to summon a guy and GB him into a woman that looks like the guy's wife rather than it was to summon a woman and change her appearance
MC attempts to be on their guard and to avoid getting into a contract or a promise, and the twins are like "nah, we don't want to steal your soul"
and so MC is reminded once again that they can read minds and so he asks them, and they respond that they can only "sense their desires"
8:55 AM
MC insists on asking the question first and "playing together" maybe later
8:55 AM
"Why me?" yup, good question
8:57 AM
yeah, MC asks the question of "why would you summon a guy"
oh yeah, the twins assigned the name "Mia" to MC, but Damythf doesn't like the name and instead calls MC "Emilia"(edited)
9:04 AM
MC interprets what they're saying as speaking in riddles, but wonders if it's not that just anyone would be fine, but because they specifically chose him
oh yeah I'd like to mention that before the whole business with the dream world started, and also within the first dream, the MC's name was not mentioned and instead it had two hyphens where the name normally would be
9:16 AM
the two hyphens correspond to two characters, and "Mi-a" happens to be two characters
9:17 AM
oh yeah MC now asks if he does pretend to be a substitute for the guy's wife and passes the witch trial, will they turn him back
oh, I think they're explaining the mechanics of how the summoning works
9:38 AM
my understanding of their explanation is that they can't bring a body to the 17th century world, but they can bring a soul and have it inhabit a vessel body, during the time the MC is sleeping(edited)
9:39 AM
as in they can bring in the soul from the future during the time they're sleeping(edited)
9:40 AM
which is also why from the perspective of MC, this is a dream world
9:40 AM
but from the perspective of these guys, it's very real
9:41 AM
soooooooooooooooo... they basically are force femming him for the lulz then?
9:45 AM
MC mentions that his body did indeed change IRL so what the hell, and they respond with
"in order to grant Vlad's wish, we've been looking for souls for a long, long time"
"and then we found Mia. We found the voice of her heart. Wanting to be happy."(edited)
MC points out that he was indeed happy when he proposed and gf accepted, so why are they stealing it from him and gets angry and tells them to give it back
insert the "non-existent womb goes kyun" sticker here (actually from what I understand now, it's actually existent in this body, though I wonder if it's gonna develop in the IRL body)(edited)
though then again if he paid for another hotel, he'd have to explain to his gf why he spent money for that <- my attempt at making it make sense(edited)
6:29 PM
the second time he woke up after 1h, so he pretty much only talked with the gf and went to sleep soon after
MC is confused by the teacup, which looks kinda like a hybrid between the Japanese-style ones and European-style ones and so asks how to hold it and queen is like "it's okay, we're the only ones here"
7:12 PM
but soon after MC praises the tea as delicious the queen stands up because she can't take it after all
7:12 PM
and that the "cultural differences" are not enough explanation
7:15 PM
"I know I'm being rude, but... do you even have any self-awareness as a woman?"
7:18 PM
inb4 MC is gonna get the training on how to be a lady(edited)
7:22 PM
"I can accept the way you're holding this cup, I can excuse the way you're not having your elbows close, but these two combined, plus the way you're slurping the tea, is unacceptable!"
there's a convo on how MC can barely handle it, and the girl is like, you know, this body is the one we made, so it's the best, it can handle it, and that it's an "OS problem" (yes: operating system)
7:53 PM
the demons are probably eternal and know of the future world from what I know
7:54 PM
since they know Japanese, the modern terms and so on and so on
7:55 PM
so anyway the girl is like
"You think of yourself as a man"
"Obviously"
"Yeah, that's the problem. This body is female"
7:55 PM
so yeah basically they're gonna force feminize him in order to be better at pretending to be the queen
7:56 PM
and I still don't understand why it wasn't simpler to just... summon a woman from the future world
"this experience as a woman, it was such an intensive... pleasure"
"as a man, let's say... even if I had SRS... I wouldn't be able to experience it"(edited)
MC gets a boner and then gets concerned that the reason it did was specifically because of the sexual experiences he had as a woman during the dream(edited)
I've been saving this thread to binge read it all at once at some point, but in a couple days I'm going on vacation to my brother's place for more than a week, so I don't know when I'll finally get around to it
Probably, yeah. Could get a lot out of that.
I tried watching K-On with the subtitles off, and I was only picking up a word or two here and there. Japanese captions with furigana would've helped a lot
9:10 PM
(Realistically, I should start with Japanese children's media, since it's actually designed to ease someone into learning to speak JP, but do I really wanna watch Crayon Shin-chan?)(edited)
ngl it reminds me of this hypno audio where it tries to get you into the mood of accepting yourself as a woman, then it has you get dommed by this woman, then you getting bottomed by a woman with a dick, and then finally, by a man(edited)
9:39 PM
the girl stimulates the place between the balls and the butt (so basically, the "pussy")
oh yeah just gonna bring this up here, but sometimes I do look at the machine translation, and since Japanese doesn't really use gendered pronouns for the most part, and for the remaining parts it relies on topics, which can be established way earlier, the most common complaint this specific machine translator gets is "hey, it's good but can you fix the pronouns" which is obviously impossible since the text itself doesn't have context(edited)
9:43 PM
so anyway here's the MTL result for this line because it gets funny
硬く、大きく熱くなった男のモノを、押し当て、られて……ッ。
She pressed her hard, hot, manly thing against me...!
okay so I got tempted too much and ended up reading some spoilers
11:04 AM
so now I know the game endings, but also the journey seems more interesting than the end anyway
11:06 AM
I won't be saying here how they end, but I will say how many endings there are: four. Which means that the two choices very likely correspond to each ending
MC notices how he doesn't feel uncomfortable moving around anymore despite the chest size, and he's like "oh it's thanks to Chlerna-san's training" and then immediately goes "wtf I shouldn't be saying it's 'thanks to' but rather 'the fault of'"(edited)
5:46 PM
Damythf enters the room, they talk for a bit and asks if she wants to eat, even though supposedly MC doesn't really need to do it anyway
5:52 PM
so they go at it
5:54 PM
MC notices Damythf staring at him for a longer time and he's like "why are you staring so much? like yeah I know I don't have my table manners, but..." and he's like "yeah no while it is indeed true your table manners need improvement, it's more that..."
"in the span of just few days you became so feminine"
also I'm gonna use the phrases slut ending and yuri ending for these to avoid unnecessary details, and I recommend editing the message to do the same(edited)
Oh wait, even better, I'm gonna be humorous
We all know that gendered pronouns are natural features of the human body that just need to be activated, so the moment the flip switched she just switched pronouns unconsciously. Duh. /s
the girl devil asks MC to ask to be allowed to cum
so she does
and then the girl devil asks "where do you want to cum"
10:29 PM
「おま●こっ、おま●こぉッ! 私のッッ――みあのおま●こッ、イかせてッ、くださいぃいいいッッ!!」
Pussy... pussy! Let me cum... through my (watashi)... Mia's pussy!!
10:32 PM
その……光に、包まれて……“私”は…………。
“わた、し”は……。
MC notices the pronoun switch(edited)
10:37 PM
the boy devil talks about letting MC experience the orgasm she won't get through fingers alone... but it's not gonna happen yet because the scene changed
10:38 PM
I think we have another timeskip where a few days happened since, Damythf is absent, Chlerna got instructions on what to do, and also MC and the devils are having sexy times
10:39 PM
"3 days passed in real life"
10:39 PM
and that it's been 5 days since the hotel check-in
10:40 PM
and meanwhile half a month passed in the dream world
10:41 PM
MC uses "ore" again
10:43 PM
...MC wakes up in the real world
10:43 PM
washes his pants again because of the wet dream
10:44 PM
and now questions whether the sex is actually necessary for the whole plan xD(edited)
he suggests MC to drop by the queen's room, and that also MC has nothing to learn as MC learns very quickly
11:08 PM
MC thanks and curtsies
11:09 PM
Damythf asks if Emilia (as in, MC) knows chess
11:13 PM
he suggests that from 3 o'clock to 4 o'clock they'll play together, MC responds that what if he ends up spending more time with his wife than that, and he's like "if you want to come here, then do so, if not, stay"
11:13 PM
followed with an explanation that basically he gives her an excuse to leave
11:15 PM
also MC notices that Damythf picks up relaxed way of speaking, including the use of "ore" and "omae"(edited)
11:15 PM
I didn't need to explain it before, but the pronouns used by Damythf were(edited)
11:17 PM
余 (yo)
11:18 PM
其方 (sochira)
mlem-chan
also MC notices that Damythf picks up relaxed way of speaking, including the use of "ore" and "omae" (edited)
(though we're also dealing with magical translation here, as mentioned way earlier so who knows what he actually says, except the way it's rendered into Japanese - presumably the authors didn't want to make the whole VN speak in non-japanese soooooo...)
11:24 PM
queen is all "oh, I won't be commenting on your behaviour anymore" and MC is like "no, no, I still have so much to learn"
11:25 PM
so yeah, Mia is done for
11:31 PM
we're having a mirror of the first time, this time Mia makes tea for Chlerna
11:34 PM
they have this small talk on how differently they act, and how there's stuff that Mia does that Chlerna feels she would not be able to
11:35 PM
queen suggests MC to swap clothes and that she'll pretend to be Mia in front of Damythf(edited)
they have a small talk on how earlier on they could easily tell the difference, but nowadays they couldn't
3:53 PM
the queen mentioned how he used to be a tomboy as a kid and the "lady training" took years for her
3:54 PM
MC speculates on whether the way how quickly MC adapted is because of some earlier talk mentioned that the earlier on when MC was told by the devils to "listen to their body's voice", maybe they just "unlocked" them somehow
3:55 PM
also makes an elaborate hardware/OS/software analogy that maybe the "lady training" program was somehow installed all along but was glitching due to being ran on the "wrong" OS (a.k.a. "being a man")(edited)
3:56 PM
and thinks it's extremely weird to attempt to deal with the OS rather than fix the program
3:57 PM
and also decides to not bring this up because the queen won't understand them
3:59 PM
the queen brings up that Damythf said that MC comes from a country several centries away, in relation to a thing MC said before
3:59 PM
MC is surprised at why would he bring this up to her(edited)
4:00 PM
and she continues that when she asked that if he meant that she just meant from a distant country, he said that he said exactly what he meant
"I will take my husband's side without hesitation"
"I believe in him, more than priests, more than anyone in the world... more than myself. Even if my husband were to rebel against god, I'll still believe in him"
"Hello, how are you?"
"Hi, hello, I'm okay, you?"
"..."
"Huh? Yuki? Do you hear me?"
"................ Hey, are you really okay? have you caught a cold?"
6:11 PM
"eh? why"
"your voice is so high-pitched, somehow"
"say...? I'm gonna ask you a weird question, as somehow I feel there's something wrong with me too"
"sure, go ahead, what is it?"
"your name... what was it?"
reminder that MC's name has been listed as "Mia" and before the devils gave him the name "Mia" he was listed with two placeholder characters (and Mia when written in hiragana corresponds to two characters)
6:21 PM
so yeah we're probably heading for identity death
6:22 PM
also MC couldn't remember his own name either
6:22 PM
but this is the first time someone IRL brings up the inability to remember MC's name
6:25 PM
Yuki comments on how she's now alone in the office after everyone left, realizing how overworked she has been all along
6:28 PM
more lore, MC has been working at the same company as Yuki before, I think
6:29 PM
anyway, Yuki attempted to mention her plans with MC to her coworker (some higher manager woman) on getting married and stuff
6:30 PM
attempted to ask for more free time so she could spend with MC
6:31 PM
and then she found herself to be unable to say MC's name
6:36 PM
she then attempted to check her phone, and noticed that the entry had phone number written okay, address too, but the name was glitched out
6:37 PM
and even though she happened to drop her phone, it would be too weird for it to happen because of that
MC is greeted by Damythf who goes "hello, welcome back Emil----"
and MC interrupts and immediately responds with "Don't call me that name!!" (including use of "ore" in the sentence)
laziest_traffics
Yeah, I've been assuming identity death is the destination all along, unfortunately.
tbh it's okay I like some incarnations of this trope
7:00 PM
e.g. I love the existential horror that comes where some of the old identity remains (and the person is aware of it)
if it's all overwritten then it's not much the point, as it's no different from just killing a person(edited)
e.g. I love the existential horror that comes where some of the old identity remains (and the person is aware of it)
if it's all overwritten then it's not much the point, as it's no different from just killing a person (edited)
I'm not a huge fan of horror, but I find it a lot more tolerable when the narrative presents it as horror, which requires some self-awareness on the part of the author and also a willingness not to go "oh this horror is actually hot so it's okay."
upon hearing this MC attempts physical violence but the girl devil somehow with her own voice manages to incapacitate MC
7:36 PM
MC is placed in some weird dimension I think, has difficulty breathing, feels pain all over, and the girl devil gets all "know your place you trash" and follows with some chanting, but is stopped by the boy devil, asking if she really intends to take MC's life in front of him
"did you know you were about to die? do you know why? it's because you hurt someone close to her. But you didn't die, I didn't want your life to go to waste. and neither did Mahzanar. so she stopped. but don't expect this to happen a second time. Mahzanar is the queen of ice and death"
7:46 PM
Yalbha seems to be "the symbol of life and blessings/kindess", on the other hand, which is supposedly even worse
7:50 PM
they both pat him and MC gets away and laughs, while asking if they even get why did MC ask them to not call him with that name
7:51 PM
and says that finally he's hearing a line worthy of a demon, that being "if you don't want to die, do what I say"
7:54 PM
MC calls them out saying that he's still alive in 21st century and that they can't really kill him because if they do, they won't be able to grant Damythf's wish
7:54 PM
this visibly angers them both
7:55 PM
also MC uses a lot of vulgar words towards them too
MC bluffs and says that this is a dream world for him and that if he dies the connection is severed between the worlds, while knowing this isn't really a 100% surefire way and there's a chance of dying altogether
8:02 PM
let him cook
8:02 PM
inb4 he gets rekt
8:03 PM
he goes for one of the weapons
8:03 PM
Damythf goes "stop it"
8:05 PM
then attempts to negotiate
8:08 PM
but... he doesn't go for killing himself just now... but attempts to insult them even more... for some reason?
8:11 PM
MC makes a pretty long and interesting call out to everything, including how despite supposedly observing and loving humanity for many years, they know so little about them
True!
Doing live plays, or recordings can be a hassle to make, view, and share. While having it readable is a different format, good for different audiences and times.(edited)
8:28 PM
Like, I'm in the fuckin car with my parents, and I can just pop in here (risk my dignity with the cg pics) and follow along for a bit
I've always wanted to not have to eat, drink, or sleep.
Now, under the circumstances of MC? Maybe not. With a computer and internet though? Absolutely.
"Did you manage to sleep for a bit?"
"Thanks to Chlerna-san, yeah"(edited)
9:16 PM
girl twin goes
「ごめんね。名前をそんなに大事にしてるなんて、思ってもなかったから……」
I'm sorry, I wasn't aware your name was so important to you..(edited)
9:16 PM
(lol)
9:20 PM
okay now they explain that they didn't actually steal MC's name
9:23 PM
what happened instead is that over time MC accepted this world as "real", and thanks to all the effort and time spent (including on the "lady training") led MC slowly ended up removing the discomfort around the name "Mia" and "Emilia", which led to MC accepting MC's existence as "Mia"
"We didn't steal your identity, you chose and accepted this identity. Could you really get mad at us for making you try out this identity and leading you to find one you love?"(edited)
They're very much like, coercing him to accept the identity, and change the way MC perceives themselves. And then they're like "well hey, ultimately it's up to you how you perceive yourself. You could've kept resisting."
Next level gaslighting.
"well, whatever, anyway, once the witch trial is done, will I turn back to the way I was?"
"well, rather than that, more like, return to the way you want it"
It will never stop being funny to me that these gender bender protags never even consider the possibility of just ordinary transition. Our medical technology isn't that primitive! If something's set before the 20th century, they have an excuse, but in the 2000s we've had artificial hormones for a long time.
oh yeah this was mentioned before but I didn't understand it either, but they say that "soul", "spirit" and "body" are all connected
9:59 PM
and I didn't comment on it because I also wasn't aware what is the difference between "soul" and "spirit", which also adds to the fact that there is a factor of these words being in Japanese
I wonder if its like a “body, heart, mind” thing where when you look at it from the outside, heart and mind seem to be the same thing but they have different vibes in context
"well, whatever, anyway, once the witch trial is done, will I turn back to the way I was?"
"well, rather than that, more like, return to the way you want it"
Feels like they could extend this for several more hours with like, at least 3 or 4 more stages of gender existential crises as her IRL body changes more and more.(edited)
"Good evening, Mia"
"You seem in a bad mood"
"Yeah, as you can see"
I'm not even sure what exactly is it I'm irritated about, so I make a half-answer
Maybe just like how I felt when I couldn't sleep, it's the stress from not being able to return to the real world?
"Rather than the stress, maybe it's the matter of balance between heart and body?"
I'm feeling like the boy devil is genderfluid, which would explain that, given the whole "soul, spirit, and body are connected" thing, which makes me wonder if they effectively turned MC into a devil, and that's why their form is able to change according to their soul/spirit changing(edited)
mlem-chan
what follows is this CG so I guess we're gonna have sex in front of the mirror
MC feels awe (? for lack of a better word) of how the woman she has seen constantly being all lady-like and all this stuff is exhibiting this sort of animalistic lust(edited)
6:02 PM
this makes MC awaken some stuff inside her too(edited)
they ask MC if she feels that Chlerna is being vulgar and improper and MC is like well it can't be helped really that she's like this, just look at Damythf
Oh my god MC no don't fall for the wiles of men, women will always be superior! Nooooo!!!!
Realistically MC was always gonna become progressively more bi anyways, whatever, this makes sense.
6:14 PM
If it's not explicitly advertised as yuri genderbend media, then it will almost certainly not be exclusively lesbian. That's something I'm fine accepting.
"But... I no longer feel scared anymore..."
"In this warm water... somehow I really feel at ease..."
"Ah... I see... I understand now..."
"A distant memory, long long time ago, is coming back"
7:50 PM
is... MC remembering the time she was in her mother's womb?
7:50 PM
because it's how I understand what's happening rn
7:52 PM
MC wakes up in the real world
7:52 PM
body is aching all over
7:57 PM
drinks some water, wonders what was all that about this falling into water thing
7:58 PM
crotch feels uncomfortable and just when he decides to check if a wet dream happened again, he notices that the hair reaches his cheeks(edited)
"Yalbha, Mahzanar, you're here, aren't you? What is the meaning of this?"
misspelt_dunes
If it's not explicitly advertised as yuri genderbend media, then it will almost certainly not be exclusively lesbian. That's something I'm fine accepting.
I know of some, like, anime and stuff that kiiiinda male gaze-ifies it, but idk I've enjoyed them, depending on the mood I'm in. Some are just pure horny material.
Stuff like Ayakashi Triangle, and a pair of two episodes of To Love Ru Darkness where the latter episode basically has a literal lesbian sex scene between the genderbent MC and two of the many love interests. I mean, they don't show everything, but the audio does a lot to fill in the imagination, dubbed or subbed.(edited)
8:46 PM
(I have not watched the rest of To Love-Ru, lmfaooooo, just those two episodes. Well, and the gender bender OVA. Which was, um, a pretty key memory of my egg days)
8:47 PM
Oh, also Kashimashi Girl Meets Girl. It's got some weird anime things (Weird alien characters? Weird dad character), but it's also just a lesbian love triangle centered around a gb'd main character(edited)
laziest_traffics
Okay, I'm pretty sure I've read everything with the yuri and gender bender tags on dynasty, but if there's more I need it :).
If I find anything else that you might not have seen yet though, I'll toss it your way.
Have you read the gender bender lesbian brothel isekai? (That's a collection of words, certainly)
Oh, so the passport wasn't changing with him, it was just people's memories of him? And the passport was just losing its ability to be legible or recognized as anything other than the vague form of someone else's passport.(edited)
Hm, I'll allow it (read as: I hope you're able to fix it with relative ease! Take your time!)
mlem-chan
also yeah there was this story of how it happened that led the guy's wife to being accused of being a witch, but I accidentally skimmed it over and didn't get the important parts of it
(I'll go back to it if it becomes important) (edited)
update on this one: basically he describes how the region had bad harvests and was generally in poor shape and instead of putting high taxes on regular folk, he put these on churches, and the priests got angry, but instead of outright refusing it they accused the guy's wife of believing in the devils
mlem-chan
(first message in the thread)
after a long time MC and his gf finally arrive at the hotel (in an old castle) in some "small Eastern European country" in some remote location, and MC and his girlfriend decide to roleplay... a medieval witch hunt (?) where MC pretends to be a priest and pushes the gf who's dressed in this white dress into the church's stained glass, while accusing her of being a witch (edited)
also I need to check something because I think the area where MC and his gf did the roleplay, and the area where MC and demons have sex is the same place
as for my VN reading setup, in the last two day I:
wrote a Textractor plugin that sends text to Didactical Enigma directly rather than going through clipboard, which means that taking screenshots and pasting them in the chat does not clear the current text, nor does copying a fragment of the text for lookup purposes
Didactical Enigma registers what window spent too much time gathering data and registers it as a slow data source, and runs two calls in parallel, one asking for "fast sources" the other asking for "slow sources", which means that in situations when I use hybrid manual dictionary lookup/machine translation, I no longer have to wait for MTL to run (which takes up to 5s) before I can lookup words
(if anyone asks "what is Didactical Enigma?" - it's this, a program I wrote)(edited)
5:55 PM
now, continuing with the game:(edited)
5:56 PM
MC is worried that he won't be able to go back to Japan, and that while he can survive for now using his credit card, it's still potentially a problem in situations where they check the name on the credit card
6:00 PM
he sadly cries out the name of his gf
6:03 PM
she called his phone but he didn't answer it, and wrote a message back with an excuse for why he couldn't answer
6:03 PM
he thinks the excuse of "bad timing" won't hold for too long
mlem-chan
also I forgot to take a screnshot of how the MC looks now
this would be actually pretty interesting, if they got him there, and revealed to him that they actually had him all along, and that the fact that he found the website with the hotel is how they lured him in there in the first place
(heck, maybe even the workplace incident thing was their cause?)(edited)
6:19 PM
he stocked up on some food along the way and ate it and feels tired, too tired to take a shower and brush his teeth and goes to sleep(edited)
6:22 PM
...and guess what, he's in the dream world castle again
6:22 PM
"Eh... Why?!"
6:24 PM
anyway, I actually respect the attempt of running away
6:27 PM
he used the taxi, switched to a train to get away from there, basically anything aside from getting on the plane to Japan, which he wanted to do, but couldn't(edited)
6:31 PM
Yalbha says "well, I'd say it's because it's a dream for you"
Mahzanar further explains, and MC wonders that if sleeping is the key to entering this place then it doesn't matter where he runs away in the real world, he'll end up here
6:40 PM
"By leaving the hotel, it means you didn't want to come here, right?"
6:40 PM
no shit lol
6:44 PM
"It's because of you...! How do you think this stuff happened to my body?"
6:44 PM
"I explained it to you before"
6:50 PM
"Mia, how do you think of yourself, that pulls in your body in the real world"
I'm not sure what this word means in this context tbh, but I'm guessing the "dream world body" is being "pulled" into the "real world body"?
6:51 PM
「みあが、自分のことをどう思うか。それに現実の肉体も引っ張られているだけだって」
putting in the original here just in case I go back to it later
6:53 PM
none of these meanings seem to match the context, though maybe "lead" in Kenkyuusha is on to something
6:53 PM
"That's bullshit!"
6:54 PM
That's wrong, this can't be real
6:54 PM
They must have done something to me!
(edited)
6:56 PM
そうでなかったら……俺が自分で、自分のことを女だと、そう思ったとでも言うのかっ?
Otherwise... does this mean that I consider myself a woman?
6:56 PM
...this game can get occasionally trans lol
6:57 PM
also kinda tempted to make a announcement post for this let's play on tumblr
they're encouraging her to give in to this feeling and to cum from both holes, and experience an orgasm incomparable to the one while a man
"Because you're a girl, Mia"
8:50 PM
MC is now crawling on all fours
8:50 PM
"Speaking of sex, it's all about giving and taking, right?"
8:51 PM
hmmmmm, are they gonna make MC do a blowjob now
8:52 PM
called it
8:52 PM
also hey you just had it in your butt
8:53 PM
are we gonna skip out on hygiene
8:55 PM
yeah MC is understandably repulsed
8:55 PM
and heck MC even points out it was in her butt just moments ago
8:59 PM
"Do you want this dick to be inside your pussy? If you lick it well, I'll let you have it"
8:59 PM
...I guess we're gonna ignore the aspect of hygiene here
MC starts thinking about the shape of the dick she's blowing and stuff, and also the pleasure she feels before realizing she's heading in some strange direction with her thoughts
9:22 PM
girl devil asks her to move on from licking to putting it in her mouth
"Come on... Mia's body is already saying that it's looking forward to it... Give in to this voice."
"It's okay... there's nothing to be afraid of. There's nothing to be embarrassed about. It's okay for you to feel good."
10:02 PM
「「だってみあは……女の子、なんだから」」
"After all... you're a girl, Mia."(edited)
10:03 PM
yer a girl, Harry Mia
10:05 PM
ah, yeah, MC has been holding herself to not fall on the dick(edited)
okay I'm not sure if this is the difference but the previous PiV sex was in missionary position (so the "boy" was on the top) and this time it's the reverse cowgirl (so the "girl" is on the top)
10:16 PM
yeah
10:21 PM
okay so she came and blanked out
10:21 PM
will the plot start back again
10:22 PM
the screen is all black
"I don't know how much time has passed... it's like I'm floating in the darkness"
Slightly jealous of the ability of Japanese GB and trans writers to convey how the protagonist thinks about their gender in dialog and first-person narration. You can do that in English, but only in 3rd person.
It'd be hilarious if they were all big on this "ooooh you have to choose your body mia, your subconscious yearnings guide your body to match the shape of your soul" but in reality they were simply slipping magical estrogen in the tea
MC drank tea once before, but then again from what I'm reading they don't really need it
11:09 PM
so MC feeling thirsty certainly seems the first
approval_modestly
It'd be hilarious if they were all big on this "ooooh you have to choose your body mia, your subconscious yearnings guide your body to match the shape of your soul" but in reality they were simply slipping magical estrogen in the tea
he goes on how interesting in how MC is pretty much a spirit in the body that's a splitting image of his wife, and MC's like "yeah, sorry about being crude unlike your wife"
how there's a beauty in how womanly and graceful is the way MC moves and gestures, but while at the same time, there's this powerful look in MC's eyes characteristic of a guy
"After all, I'm a fundamentalist heterosexual man who's single-handedly devoted to Yuki"
...actually not sure if that "fundamentalist" is correct, but one dictionary says it is, the other says it is, together with an example use of this word being "Islamic fundamentalism" and the third one also having it as fundamentalist, so I don't think I have a choice but to accept it as is, which adds to the hilarity(edited)
it'd be a shame if This was the yuri route considering the lack of yuki in the route so far. I'm still holding onto that lil "prince of the girls school" tidbit lmao
which yeah the "mind is a plaything of the body" trope is heavy in GB porn and also more likely explanation than "MC is likely repressing" but also I consider it fairly boring and comphet so I ignore it happening even if it's in plain sight the case that it's exactly what's happening(edited)
Chlerna comments that Mia became really feminine, and MC, shocked, replies that "Eh? ...is that... so?" and thinks that he doesn't really feel that way
8:58 AM
MC having complicated feelings about this
mlem-chan
I had 5h of sleep but also my brain doesn't feel like sleeping rn so I'll try doing some more
Slightly jealous of the ability of Japanese GB and trans writers to convey how the protagonist thinks about their gender in dialog and first-person narration. You can do that in English, but only in 3rd person.
She keeps trying to come up with any and every alternative theory to explain this, because the devils' explanation would mean she thinks of herself as a girl
3:31 PM
(Though I wouldn't be surprised if the frequent sex causing heightened female hormone levels is the explanation they'll give for how her IRL body changed.)(edited)
Hm. I wonder if it's because she thinks she can't really go back in the same way now that pandora's box of gender opened, or if she just... doesn't want to tell Chlerna that she's gonna go back?(edited)
Like, female hormones do indeed do things your body and your brain. And they can cause shifts in sexual preference. But generally it doesn't turn you into a straight woman if you weren't already interested in guys.
But like, lol, they really just decide they affect shit sometimes in GB and it's hilarious. Like how in GB manga you sometimes don't need bottom surgery, because female hormones do it for you. Yeah. Okay. Giwtwm.
"I guess... you're gonna return to your original world? I feel sympathetic towards your nostalgia towards your birthplace..."
"But, will you consider it...?"
3:49 PM
would be funny if MC agreed to stay because the lady asked so nicely(edited)
"My father has already passed away..."
"and due to various reasons, my sister(s), relatives scattered all over... and there's not much people I can call family."
MC goes no wait, stop it and follows with "ummm, you know, why are we speaking of this now since we don't even know what will be the end result of the witch trial?"
4:24 PM
and she goes that everything goes well as long as she has faith
4:27 PM
MC thinks that this is not particularly compatible with all the fucking she did in this world
4:28 PM
and again, there's no way she'll tell it to her(edited)
Chlerna delivers some speech I don't really understand, but it resorts about how she sympathizes with MC's struggles and hesitation about doing this in that there's been rumors and stuff and now people's life are ruined, makes some statement how God works, and also about how often his husband goes away from home to negotiate with all sorts of people who don't really truly understand it(edited)
4:49 PM
...I don't think I get it tbh
4:50 PM
after a while she stops and realizes she keeps talking and switches the subject to ask how is MC's world like
4:51 PM
and I think MC actually ends up talking a loooot because we get a time skip to the night(edited)
MC also comments on Chlerna on how religious she is, but also not preachy, and why would a God cause her to be put on the witch trial (lol what? is MC converting already?)
5:28 PM
and then goes, wait, the devils are also technically "gods" in this setting(edited)
5:28 PM
though not the gods that Chlerna believes in
5:29 PM
with nothing much to do, she goes to her room where she normally wakes up in the dream world, and goes asleep(edited)
5:30 PM
and... she wakes up IRL... in the castle room (?)
5:31 PM
5:31 PM
no, wait
5:32 PM
MC actually takes her time in the real world to go back to the castle(edited)
5:32 PM
wtf
5:34 PM
oh, I guess the rationale is that if the devils will get her anywhere in the world, it doesn't really even matter if she stays in the cheap hotel or in the castle
5:34 PM
and in the end, she just wasted money on it
5:36 PM
and like yeah, if you're gonna end up getting feminized regardless, might as well be feminized in a fancy castle
5:37 PM
or a fancy basement
5:38 PM
also, security is better in the fancy castle
5:38 PM
and like yeah, true story, I once spent some money on a hotel that was cheap enough to have a shared shower for two rooms
5:38 PM
and someone literally attempted to open the door to my room (while I was inside of it)
5:39 PM
presumably hoping I left the door unlocked and they could steal my shit
okay the sequence of events is that something happens -> MC gets stared all over by the staff -> MC enters the room -> sees a box and a letter -> the box contains a vibrator, the letter has some very crude language which is either addressed to Yuki or to MC(edited)
6:24 PM
I need to learn what is "something" and who is it addressed to (currently leaning toward "addressed toward Yuki")
6:26 PM
okay so what I'm gonna assume is that it is addressed toward Yuki, and that "something happened" is the staff seeing the other person in the room is a woman, and if it is, then my interpretation of the events that happened is as follows:(edited)
6:28 PM
MC left the room, the staff saw it's a woman, the hotel staff turns out to be actually pretty rude and homophobic and assumes they're lesbians, and one of the staff wrote down a letter that says something along the lines(edited)
6:30 PM
"contact me if you're done with your Japanese companion, if she's gonna do the same job [as the vibrator], then maybe you want my dick instead? mine is two sizes bigger than this"
6:34 PM
and then MC realizes that damn, not only she walks in this hoodie around, but also the boobs are clearly visible and also she's not even wearing a bra
They're smaller than the ones that my body in the dream has, but I am unable to insist they're pecs anymore, these clearly grew into some impressive breasts.
6:36 PM
oh, so maybe they're assuming she's a lesbian due to the whole not-even-attempt-at-boymoding?(edited)
MC notices that running while having these boobs is actually pretty painful
6:48 PM
MC ponders how women actually have to deal with them on daily basis and then remembers the time when Yuki asked him whether a penis down there gets annoying sometimes
6:48 PM
「まぁ俺も雪に、“ち●ちんって邪魔じゃないの?”って訊かれたことはあるけれどもだ」
6:51 PM
and MC thinks that not necessarily because it's contained in the underwear and only sometimes it gets erect and stuff(edited)
6:54 PM
「ってことも考えると……ノーブラは二重の意味でよくない……か?」
"now that I think about it... isn't going braless twice as troublesome?"
6:56 PM
and so MC thinks that while no one really saw her, it may be a good idea just in case of that very tiny probability, to be prepared(edited)
6:57 PM
and that moving around becomes annoying(edited)
6:57 PM
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand she checks out Yuki's luggage
6:58 PM
「雪にバレたらこれ、絶対、縁切られるヤツだよな……」
"If Yuki found out about this, she'd definitely cut ties with me..."
6:58 PM
you know what at this point I think MC wants to get feminized
mlem-chan
"contact me if you're done with your Japanese companion, if she's gonna do the same job [as the vibrator], then maybe you want my dick instead? mine is two sizes bigger than this"
then MC thinks that it shouldn't really be that drastic because MC looks pretty much completely like a woman and then thinks "wow, what a consolation /s"
7:11 PM
「雪、すまん……変な意味で使うんじゃないから、勘弁してくれ……」
"Yuki, I'm sorry... There's really no weird meaning behind it, please forgive me..."
7:13 PM
and with that, MC opens Yuki's bag
new CG(edited)
7:13 PM
this confirms our earlier speculation
7:13 PM
that when MC said "there's nothing here", they literally meant it
mlem-chan
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand she checks out Yuki's luggage
okay so MC took off their clothes, and picks up Yuki's bra and panties
7:19 PM
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
mlem-chan
"contact me if you're done with your Japanese companion, if she's gonna do the same job [as the vibrator], then maybe you want my dick instead? mine is two sizes bigger than this"
Oh noooooo force fem. I enjoy using it in trans stories. In all the autobiographical works I've read translated, I don't think I've ever read a trans woman talking about how she feels about Japanese pronouns or what pronouns she's used and how that's changed as her self-conception has, which I think would be really interesting but probably cis audiences don't care about as much as the millionth story about GRS.
but also thinks that keeping being dishonest to her would be bad, so then he thinks
「雪に……すべてを伝える、か……?」
"Should I... explain everything to Yuki...?"
8:35 PM
meta: oh yeah explaining how the demons forced you to have sex with them may not go too well(edited)
8:36 PM
and then wonders if he really can explain it and that there's no way she'll believe him
8:37 PM
aaaaand I guess he'll just won't, not until the whole witch trial matter gets resolved
8:38 PM
oh hey is MC actually listing a concrete deadline for when the witch trial actually happens?
8:38 PM
I started to think at this point given how rarely it came up, it was merely an excuse
8:39 PM
like every time MC asks the dream world folk
"hey, what about witch trial?" it's okay, you can handle it, go to Chlerna so she can get you the lady training "will it help with the trail?" ... "I'll assume yes"
8:41 PM
その期間を、その裁判をしのぎきれば俺は元の男の身体に戻れる。
If I go through the trial, I'll be able to turn back to my male body.
8:41 PM
uhhhhhhh
8:42 PM
didn't the demons tell you that they won't turn you back to the male body
8:42 PM
but the body you want to have?
8:42 PM
and your brain is already full of estrogen so you know /j(edited)
8:45 PM
"To tell her, or not to tell her, that is the question"
8:47 PM
MC analyses whether to tell her or not tell her, and this gives him a significant struggle
who do you think I am? like sure, it's totally my fault! like, fine, it was an important trip but I totally made my work a priority! This was totally a bad and heartless thing to do. but don't treat me like a kid and keep sulking and ignoring my contact attempts!
9:09 PM
I'm worried that something happened! Anxious that something serious happened that you can't tell me!
(hang on, I need to translate this in its entirety)
9:35 PM
and then the call disconnected
9:38 PM
"Ummm... I think this is ridiculous, and also not a very funny joke... but..."
"I also can't be 100% sure it's completely impossible, nor that it's a lie"
"Sorry... can you give me some time to think?"
"Ah... ah. Yeah. Of course..."
"Yeah... sorry... and thanks."
they changed subject, they spent time together, having fun, making tea and other girly time, but MC keeps thinking back to the time he saw them having sex
11:46 PM
the devils go
"fufufufufufufufufufu... we've finally come here..."
"congratulations Mia... fufufufufufu..."
so MC googles all over the witch trial stuff to the point we get a timeskip(edited)
12:23 AM
and then ponders upon the feeling in the lower stomach
12:24 AM
and how it's not really a period but lust, and notices how there's been people in the past who decided on whether to do it on whether the period is over or not
12:24 AM
生理と性欲には、何らかの関係性があったりもするんだろう。
There must be some kind of connection between period and the sexual desire
12:24 AM
...wow mate
12:24 AM
spend some of the time googling that instead
12:24 AM
maybe you'll realize something
12:25 AM
MC considers masturbating and then her body reacts immediately to this news(edited)
12:27 AM
now MC gets vivid flashbacks on when she touched herself in the dream world(edited)
12:28 AM
and also all the flashbacks of all the other times she had sex with them
12:30 AM
MC's body won't calm itself down, so MC considers doing it so it calms down enough to go sleep
12:30 AM
"ah... but, do I really... want to do it... with this body...?"
12:32 AM
oh hey I guess the bra still fits her, despite supposedly it fitting "perfectly" in the Mia Stage 2 phase, and now her boobs being even bigger(edited)
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12:32 AM
aaaaaaaaaaaaaand it's 2:30 AM so let's leave it at that(edited)
MC wonders if the way he's reacting to this body is related to the fact that he's a guy (ah, yes, classic "gender implying sexual attraction") and he's reacting like this to women, even if that woman is himself
10:32 AM
also he actually decided to use that vibrator(edited)
MC thinks that clearly this vibrator is too big and won't fit in there
10:39 AM
MC compares it with the boy demon's cock, after being surprised how cold it is(edited)
10:39 AM
MC feeling naughty
mlem-chan
"contact me if you're done with your Japanese companion, if she's gonna do the same job [as the vibrator], then maybe you want my dick instead? mine is two sizes bigger than this"
also hey I just realized that "Japanese companion" in here does indeed imply the letter was addressed to MC, not to gf - at that point MC was slowly turning into looking like some high-class lady of some european country, so it could not have been referring to MC(edited)
MC orgasms, thinks how stronger it was than during the times he was a guy
11:48 AM
MC has this thought "more than a vibrator, huh" (which either refers to that letter or to the times she had sex with the devils)
MC thinks, as if crossing some kind of line, and falls asleep(edited)
11:48 AM
wakes up in the dream world, in the usual room
11:48 AM
he's greeted by the twins
11:50 AM
who are clearly proud of her for masturbating on her own
they're like what's up with this reaction as if you never experienced it? have you forgotten the times you had with Yalbha's dick?
12:27 PM
MC replies with a back-sass that they're like kids who just found out about pervy stuff and to not get carried away
12:32 PM
but then they reply that it's Mia who said that they're like kids and that well, sometimes kids are indeed interested in this
12:32 PM
and MC had no good comeback for this
12:33 PM
and then realizes that he shouldn't even have to argue with them
12:34 PM
and instead says there's no reason for them for such teasing and he's uncomfortable with it
12:34 PM
and, wow
12:34 PM
first attempt at placing a hard boundary?
12:35 PM
and then MC leaves the room
12:35 PM
but then he gets hit with coldness and immediately wants to return to the room
12:36 PM
MC tries to warm himself by running in place
12:37 PM
"Ugh! My boobs are in the way!"
12:38 PM
MC thinks to go to Chlerna's room
12:39 PM
MC keeps going and sees Damythf along the way
12:39 PM
asking what is she doing there
12:40 PM
"I'm going to Chlerna's room"
"dressed like this?"
"I can't help it, I just woke up"
12:41 PM
"I don't get it. Why didn't you go after putting on clothes?"
12:44 PM
"there were a lot of reasons"
"why don't you go back to the room and get the clothes?"
"rejected"
"oh, I get it, you had a quarrel with those two"
"yeah, kinda?"
"oh well, it is what it is"
and Damythf takes off his coat and places it on her(edited)
yeah, unless some new truth around him is presented so far, then so far he's like "yeah, yeah, I know your circumstances are kinda shitty, and I'm asking an incredible demand from you, can I reward you with living in this fancy castle and riches?"(edited)
1:04 PM
like heck even if MC goes with the surrogate mother plan, they're not trying to make them into a low-level maid, but an actual family member(edited)
mlem-chan
yeah, unless some new truth around him is presented so far, then so far he's like "yeah, yeah, I know your circumstances are kinda shitty, and I'm asking an incredible demand from you, can I reward you with living in this fancy castle and riches?" (edited)
and yeah I've heard some lesbians do in fact have pseudo-crushes on fictional men, but then when it comes to it being real men it's like "nah"
I guess it's also how despite me being ace I do read hentai and stuff like this, and sometimes do imagine myself both in straight and lesbian fantasies
1:26 PM
because like, they're fantasies, and not really a thing I feel like my body wants to do
Huh, that's actually really interesting. Makes me feel less horrendously confused about why I enjoy this stuff and get hot and bothered, and then go into the real world legit like "if you are a dude and you hit on me I will vomit"(edited)
He is trying to flirt with you so fucking hard and you're still like "Why is he saying such strange things? He wouldn't be interested in me! That'd be weird, haha."
reminds me of the time where my piss-ass drunk friend (not sure if I consider him a friend now tho) attempted to do a similar thing and I asked him "are you giving me signs?"(edited)
I might have to dip out until Thursday when I get back from my brother's place, this is getting me way too horny and anxious. There's this soft fluffy tightening in my chest that just won't go away. I need to just hug something and take a leave of absence.
Damythf then attempts to go further in the sexy times and while not sure what exactly followed, MC felt his dick touching her
3:21 PM
MC is like omg, this is no joking matter, it's so big(edited)
3:21 PM
...and then he wakes up in the real world
3:23 PM
with heavy breathing
3:26 PM
in his attempts to calm himself down, he accidentally sat on something slimy and it turned out it was all the mess from the yesterday's vibrator adventure
3:29 PM
oh yeah slightly unrelated, but the official website has this outline of what I think is how MC looks before any transformations
3:30 PM
and here he is, in comparison with Stage 1 Mia
3:30 PM
Stage 2 Mia
3:31 PM
and Stage 3 Mia
3:32 PM
MC takes a shower
3:33 PM
drying off the hair was a bit of a problem, but also MC feels slightly better now
3:34 PM
「あ~~~っ、もうっ! デミトフのあほんだらぁっ!」
"Aaaaaaaaah, fuck! Damythf you goddamn moron!"
3:36 PM
but MC's brain keeps betraying him and brings back those moments and sensations
3:36 PM
「だから考えんなっつってんだろうがぁっ!!」
"I told you to stop thinking about it already!"
3:40 PM
「あのアホ……何てことしてくれたんだよ、まったく」
"That idiot... what the hell did he do that for, goddammit!"
3:41 PM
「あれか? 衆道とかって、あの時代のヨーロッパにもあったのか?」
"Huh? Was male homosexuality a thing back in Europe back then?"
3:46 PM
like sure my body was completely female... but he knows I'm a guy inside dammit
3:49 PM
MC thinks that Damythf wants him as a woman, and that he managed to wake up IRL due to fainting in the dream world, but what would happen the next time in the dream world?
3:50 PM
「男って、マジ怖すぎだろ……」
"Men are seriously scary..."
3:53 PM
he thinks how he overwhelms him in strength, and also due to all the authority he has in that world, and that he could do anything if MC upset him, including both his strength and the influence
3:56 PM
「大人しく、言うことを聞け……ってか?」
"Should I just... obey him?"
3:57 PM
and then follows that no, no, there's no way he'll do that
3:58 PM
also makes some interesting comment on how this is now different because this is now a perfectly normal human man, as opposed to all the stuff so far that was done with the devils, who were not
4:00 PM
MC gets horny and attempts to imagine Damythf's thing, but tells himself to stop thinking with his genitals(edited)
4:01 PM
「はぁ……もうほんっとに……あっちに行かなくて済む方法、もっと真剣に考えてりゃ良かったな……」
"aaaaaaah... I should have attempted to come up with ways on how to not go back there"
4:04 PM
...which is a problem because sleeping makes you go back to the other world, but not sleeping is impossible
MC now realizes that all along, while walking around the city, getting to another hotel, he could hear comments of other people and also realized he has not been using the translator app
the above is a text on a similar magnitude (of bigotry) as that letter back then so I'm gonna let it stay with me for a moment to think, sorry(edited)
mlem-chan
also hey I just realized that "Japanese companion" in here does indeed imply the letter was addressed to MC, not to gf - at that point MC was slowly turning into looking like some high-class lady of some european country, so it could not have been referring to MC (edited)
Probably drawing a distinction between dream world and IRL (which, there really isn't one but alright Mia whatever helps you sleep at night) and also... maybe admitting she kinda wanted it with the devils
"That money, you got it from that short Japanese guy for waving your butt around for him, right? I'll take good care of it."
"Don't worry. Mine is different from that pipsqueak. It's big enough to satisfy you."
of course MC reacted to the last one "who's the pipsqueak?"
mlem-chan
"That money, you got it from that short Japanese guy for waving your butt around for him, right? I'll take good care of it."
"Don't worry. Mine is different from that pipsqueak. It's big enough to satisfy you."
It's called acting like a normal human would in a situation where are significantly weaker than usual, being deprived of your humanity and have none of the leverage you wish you had to fight back
That is, YOU'RE SCARED.
Runs away from their home time because they have no way out of a horrible situation, and then when they successfully escape to the past, its just the same horrible situation
I no longer have to think anymore.
I can just leave everything to the other person
Completely obey the other person
The happiness... of being dominated
oh hey I forgot to mention, but back then, in addition to the sound of static, there was this camera shutter sound, which never happened before, so I'm assuming this is the vision stuff
6:57 PM
anyway we get some more tempting where the devils ask MC where is his happiness and MC wants to answer "at home", but the words don't come out, and finally say "be happy, Mia!"(edited)
6:58 PM
and so he loses it, and we get the camera shutter with the static
meta: also the pronoun policy got even more weird because in addition to using all of "he", "she", and "they" to refer to MC, I also used first person pronouns several times to describe what happens to the main character(edited)
7:33 PM
which is why I now I felt the need to explicitly use the "meta" indicator to say that this is not happening to MC, but to me, as in, to mlem
7:35 PM
okay now back to the game
7:36 PM
MC didn't intend for it to come out as a name, but it indeed did
7:36 PM
and somehow he pushed Damythf with two hands, which was unexpected to him, as he staggered, and MC ran, breath cold(edited)
7:37 PM
「ふざけたこと、言ってんなよ……ッ。俺が約束したのは、魔女裁判を……クリアすることだけだッ」
"Don't fuck around. I've said it before. All I promised was clearing through the witch trial."
MC now realizes that all along, while walking around the city, getting to another hotel, he could hear comments of other people and also realized he has not been using the translator app
This is the kind of one-off they'll throw into a GB plot and I'll be like, "Wait! This magic can just teach you another language without all of the work? How do I get my hands on that magic? (Okay, I'd probably take a cis female body too if I can get it without all the rape, though I'm a little iffy about looking like some specific dead woman.)"
I've just noticed that my brain refuses to work now
laziest_traffics
This is the kind of one-off they'll throw into a GB plot and I'll be like, "Wait! This magic can just teach you another language without all of the work? How do I get my hands on that magic? (Okay, I'd probably take a cis female body too if I can get it without all the rape, though I'm a little iffy about looking like some specific dead woman.)"
This feels like when I'm playing a game on stream, and I'm thinking "oh the ending is right around the corner, I can feel it, I'll hold out for a bit longer so we don't have to do a really short session next time"
And then I complete the chapter and it keeps going and I'm like "well surely this is the last chapter"
And then it's 5am and I'm like, dizzy, and I'm like "l-l-let's end off the stream here...." and I go and collapse on my bed.
7:57 PM
By the end I can barely form words(edited)
misspelt_dunes
This feels like when I'm playing a game on stream, and I'm thinking "oh the ending is right around the corner, I can feel it, I'll hold out for a bit longer so we don't have to do a really short session next time"
And then I complete the chapter and it keeps going and I'm like "well surely this is the last chapter"
And then it's 5am and I'm like, dizzy, and I'm like "l-l-let's end off the stream here...." and I go and collapse on my bed.
The routes probably have some overlap, so we're probably just seeing the other branching off points whiz by after we already made the opposite decision from the one that would have allowed us to take that branch.(edited)
So it seems more likely that by answering, it puts you on a set track. And all the tracks do share some DNA I imagine, but depending on your choices, you get some events that branch you off the main story which imply the ending you're lined up for, before eventually leading you off to your real ending branch(edited)
8:04 PM
In that sense, we can think of the VN as a train, and the choices as rail-switch levers.
8:05 PM
Lol, sorry, I couldn't help myself
8:05 PM
I like thinking about stuff like this. Like the Pokemon Mystery Dungeon quiz, where each question gives you points in a certain nature.
misspelt_dunes
The routes probably have some overlap, so we're probably just seeing the other branching off points whiz by after we already made the opposite decision from the one that would have allowed us to take that branch. (edited)
Yeah, lol, it sometimes seems like it could be leading into another branching-off point, even though it also feels likely that it's just not possible given the rest of the stuff that keeps happening
That's why, like, I suggested what we're seeing might be the stub of where that branching point might begin, but then we're being pulled back onto our track.(edited)
this sentence feels very important
and I'm really hoping that I'm misjudging Damythf
but I feel like he might try doing a switcheroo where Chlerna is the one who's executed or something
premature_enfeebled
this sentence feels very important
and I'm really hoping that I'm misjudging Damythf
but I feel like he might try doing a switcheroo where Chlerna is the one who's executed or something
Also I'm not inclined to trust the demon summoner who may be fine with the whole "force feminizing a random guy into a lookalike for his wife". I am assuming he is bad news.
they're so similar to each other that I think that the only difference is the dress, the hair pin thingy, and also, it could be my eyes playing tricks on me, but it feels like MC is a bit narrower? as if the authors took their sprite and resized it horizontally to be very slightly narrower?
7:53 AM
actually I should try overlapping their sprites to check
MC is like that even though he managed to chase away Damythf, he's not particularly satisfied because even to the very end, he still treated her like a kid... or rather, like a girl
5:51 PM
「何で……何で、だよ……ッ」
MC: "Why...? ...Why...?"
5:52 PM
「それは、こっちの台詞」
Yalbha: "I should be asking this."
5:52 PM
「どうして、断れたの?」
Mahzanar: "Why did you refuse?"
5:52 PM
MC hears from both ears
5:53 PM
MC notices both of them near him, appearing as if they were surprised that MC rejected Damythf
5:54 PM
MC keeps walking away
5:55 PM
the two of them attempt to stop MC, but MC doesn't even bother to reply
5:56 PM
MC finds himself in the chapel, and from what I can see, the exact same as he was the first time with Yuki
5:56 PM
「ここも……同じだな……」
"This place... it's the same..."
5:57 PM
MC says out his gf's name
5:59 PM
even though we haven't seen each other in a few days, it's like we haven't seen each other in years
"With her own eyes, I want her to look at me"
"I want to smile at my own darling, and tell her I'm here"
"With her own hands, I want her to touch me"
"I want her fingers trace the cheeks of my face and say 'here, it's okay'"
"With her own voice, I want her to speak out my name"
6:21 PM
俺のッ……俺――ッッ。
「ぁぁあああああああああああっ!!」
My... my----
"aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!", MC cries out
6:21 PM
名前。
Name.
6:21 PM
俺の名前。
My name.
6:22 PM
自分でも思い出せなくなった、俺の本当の名前。
The name even I can no longer remember anymore. My real name.
6:23 PM
「くそっ、くそっ! くそぉおおおっ!!!」
insert more swear words here, use your imagination(edited)
(the original swear word here is "kuso" which I consider the "default swear word" of Japanese, kinda like "fuck" is the default swear word of English, and "kurwa" is the default swear word of Polish, except I don't know, I don't really feel "fuck" is appropriate here so I didn't write out a TL)
(I've seen it in Seksmisja where the exit elevator was activated by a phrase "kurwa mać" which means "[your] mother [is a] whore", which normally wouldn't be known by a society full of women - turns out before the gendercide the mom of one boys hid him and eventually he somehow ended up being the leader of the whole underground society)(edited)
But hey, uh, MC, consider, what if, relationship with Yuki, in this body?
mlem-chan
(I've seen it in Seksmisja where the exit elevator was activated by a phrase "kurwa mać" which means "[your] mother [is a] whore", which normally wouldn't be known by a society full of women - turns out before the gendercide the mom of one boys hid him and eventually he somehow ended up being the leader of the whole underground society) (edited)
(said movie also features a reaction from an old woman who was told that the society full of women who found two men hibernated were planning to forcibly transition them, was like "are you gonna make women out of them? to them, that would be worse than death" and this line alone made me go "omg, I'm not a guy". I was 12 when I saw this movie.)(edited)
"Alright, so I had this dream, and there were these demons that turned me into a girl. And they touched my pussy so good that now I'm a girl in real life."(edited)
This is the most eloquent way of wording this, clearly, thank you to the VN author for taking my suggestion and definitely implementing it into the game.
Yalbha and Mahzanar: "Nah, we're pretty weak. You, however, are a CRAZY powerhouse. Seriously, you wanted this so bad that our magic just kinda did this to you without any of our input"
mlem-chan
we're getting desperate in our brain and Yuki notices
"You're... the one who brought me here and proposed to me... right?"
7:52 PM
the name on the hotel reservation is also Mia
7:54 PM
Yuki explains that she for sure dated a man and all that, but when she tries to remember his name, only "Mia" comes to mind
7:54 PM
and MC follows that it's the same for him
7:54 PM
「ごめんなさい……」
「だから、謝んなくていいって」
"I'm sorry"
"Like I said, you don't have to apologize"
7:56 PM
MC then explains how without a doubt, it was him who brought him here, and while it "may count only as a weak proof", he brings up Yuki's birthday date, blood type, his own birthday date, blood type
Which, um, yeah... that probably hurts. Existentially horrifying, to be honest, to witness your own memories being tampered with, and be fully aware it's happening, and have no control in stopping it.
Alright, alright this is starting to- it's starting to do something to me. I'm feeling a little tingle welling up- Goddamn, this is good smut, it knows just how to tease it all the way up to the moment.
8:24 PM
This is fucking art
mlem-chan
「そうじゃなくって。服の上からだと見えない、下も含めて全部ってことッ」
"I don't mean it that way. I mean all of it, everything, including the bottom, that I can't see right now through your clothes"
It's not like I was ordered to do it. It's not like I was forced to do it. I've masturbated... as a woman... by my own will.
Once I've been made to recall that, I cried out in my mind.
Mia: "Yeah, they're annoying, aren't they? They keep pushing me into sexual situations I don't wanna be in!"
Yuki: "No, no, it was more like they were encouraging me to do what I wanted to, without making sure it was okay."
Gasp No way, Yuki, this is such a betrayal. To repay me, you'll need to shove your tongue directly into my pussy right now. With every second your apology becomes less effective. Come on. Get on with it.
Wow, this is so similar to the GB story ideas I kept having in the year or two before I figured out I was trans, an MC who gets turned into a girl for a contrived reason (I even had one where the one responsible was a demon) and a girlfriend who's bisexual but angsty about it. In my story ideas it would always work out in the end, I hope it does here.
MC was different from those men, because he probably said it in a real sweet, girlish way that made her feel less objectified and-
Okay, I know too many different tropes, and at this point, I could throw things at the wall for the rest of my life until something sticks(edited)
okay so I'm not sure if I got it correctly, but I read ahead for a bit
10:34 PM
and I'm gonna write down the summary of what I understand her situation was
10:37 PM
basically from what I see it was the first time I think, that with MC that he actually managed to affirm her gender as a woman, he treated her right and all this stuff, she actually started to enjoy sex, and that despite all this she still chose job over him, and when she finally realized how wrong she was to do that, she discovers that MC got already changed, and to further the pain, the devils spoke to Yuki asking if she's jealous that MC became cuter than her
"where were many girls, who, just like you, came up to me with this treatment, but I kept sensing this sleaziness from them" is my attempt in parsing this(edited)
11:00 PM
「でも……」
"But..."
11:00 PM
雪が、言葉を途切れさせる。
Yuki interrupted her words.
11:01 PM
「なんて言えばいいかな。私の性自認は、もちろん女で」
Yuki: "I don't know how to say it right. My gender identity is, of course, female."(edited)
11:02 PM
「その人の言葉は、打算抜きに、私の“女”を認めるというか……受け容れてくれた、みたいで」
"That person's words, with no self-interest coming from them, were recognizing me as a "woman"... or like, accepting it."
11:03 PM
どうだったろうか……と自分の記憶を探る。
Thinking to myself... I thought back to these memories.
11:05 PM
俺は最初から、取引先の社員である雪のことを、美人な人だなと思ってた。
"From the beginning, I thought Yuki, who was the business client's company employee, to be a beautiful woman."
Yalbha and Mahzanar were like "yeah, but can you really pleasure her now that she's a woman?"
and Yuki was like "oh, I have to do it now."
And Yalbha and Mahzanar were like "oh shit wait she might actually be able to do this, fuck, quick, uhhhh, knock her out!"
Yalbha and Mahzanar were like "yeah, but can you really pleasure her now that she's a woman?"
and Yuki was like "oh, I have to do it now."
And Yalbha and Mahzanar were like "oh shit wait she might actually be able to do this, fuck, quick, uhhhh, knock her out!"
"I'm so good at pleasuring women... I thought I'd finally learned to pleasure a man, but it turns out you were a woman after all... my mom's gonna be so pissed."
"Damythf, come clean, you didn't summon me here to take your wife's place in a witch trial. You summoned me here to replace your wife, give birth to your child, and lied to your wife about it."(edited)
Yeah, this dude totally brokered with those devils for this to happen. He's like, giving off big "it's what I wished for, so the devils will make it so" vibes.
I can't believe there's an ending where you end up with him! Also the insinuation that Mia would be crying out in pleasure is pretty hot! But it's wrong! This dude sucks! I don't care if part of my brain is like "yeah, fuck her brains out and make her feel really good," there's a chance for a REAL happy ending here. I must suppress the horny immediate pleasure thought for the true satisfaction!(edited)
Damythf is a total chaser (And literally too, haha, get it, because he's chasing her, haha). He wants to watch Mia break and have an "I am your woman and I need your dick" moment. Gross.(edited)
Honestly though, I'm kiiiinda disappointed, you know? Damythf was at least seeming mostly like an alright guy. So to see him go full mask off rapist is... like... kinda disappointing for me.
There are approximately a billion GB VNs that have exclusively bad ends where the MC ends up as a slut or gets victimized in various ways, I'm glad this one has a non-bad-end option honestly?(edited)
mlem-chan
because, uhhhhh, there's a lot of possibilites on where he could go from there
the best case scenario for everyone would be that the witch trial was a sham, and the goal all along was to make MC into a surrogate mother, but MC never gets to learn that (silly girl, why do you need to know that), actually gets along and becomes a side mistress or sth
12:53 AM
or maybe a wife for some other member in Damythf's family while pretend the child is Chlerna's and Damythf(edited)
12:54 AM
though it would also add complications in terms of "why are there two identical-looking women around"
Yeah, like, the alternative possibility of "alright, now that I have a version of my wife that is actually fertile, I can let my actual wife die in the witch trial and take you as my wife"(edited)
oh yeah the above of course assumes that MC would actually be okay with the whole "pregnancy" thing, "living as a woman" thing, and "having sexual and romantic relationships with men" (which in hentai world where gender identities and sexual attraction of everyone is possible to change, so I wouldn't rule it out)(edited)
and yeah the other possibilities involve sending one of them to die on a witch trial(edited)
12:57 AM
in which case let's be honest: there is this woman that made our life bearable in there, and now she's dead (if Chlerna gets sent, which is a possibility)(edited)
Meanwhile, MC's Mom: "Honey, do you know where our foreign adopted daughter (who I could've sworn a week ago was our biological Japanese son) ran off to?"
And then, Mia rescued Chlerna from her execution by bringing her back to the present. She said “I’m sorry Yuki, but there are two of me now” and Yuki said “Babe…. I have two hands”
Then Chlerna looked directly at the camera and said “I am also transgender” and they all did a big gay kiss the end
"I'll have you know, Damythf. I only took the responsibility of acting as Chlerna's substitute"
"Don't demand anything more from me than appearing on the witch trial."
"Well obviously acting as Chlerna's substitute would involve taking the role of giving birth to a child"
8:24 AM
「ふざけんなッ」
"Don't fuck around with me"
8:24 AM
"I'm not doing that"
8:24 AM
Damythf walks towards us, as if cornering his prey
8:25 AM
MC shouts out towards the devils
8:26 AM
「二人に助けを乞うても無駄だと分かっているはずだろう。二人の主は、この俺なのだからな」
"You do know it's pointless to ask those two for help. After all, it is me who is their master."(edited)
I reaaaaaaaally should somehow separate the meta from the in-game stuff somehow
8:43 AM
「お前……自分の子を、生贄に捧げただろう。ヤルバとマザナと契約する、その対価として」
"As part of trading an equivalent value... you have given your own child as a sacrifice to Yalbha and Mahzanar"(edited)
8:44 AM
「ほぅ……どうやってかは知らぬが、よく調べたものだ」
Damythf: "hmmm... I don't know how you did it, but good job on investigating"
8:45 AM
hit the mark, but Damythf seems to be regaining his composure
8:46 AM
「正確には、その可能性だな。当時、クラーナは懐妊していなかったのでな」
"To be accurate, it is possible. During that time, Chlerna wasn't pregnant"
8:47 AM
MC puts his hand on his stomach, apologizes, for the "life that could have been there" (?)
8:48 AM
「俺は……俺はこれから、女として、生きていく……ッ」
"I... from now on, I'm going to live as a woman..."
8:50 AM
「その俺が……宿したかもしれない命を対価に、捧げる!」
"And in exchange... I'll give the life of a being could have been born in there!"
8:50 AM
sooooooooo... MC is basically making himself sterile, I think(edited)
8:52 AM
...hang on this whole contract thing doesn't seem to make sense anymore
8:53 AM
Damythf's sacrificed his wife's fertility, in order to... ummmm, have MC go on a witch trial, but then also realized he could also make MC bear a child too and both have a cookie and eat a cookie?(edited)
8:54 AM
「俺に、幸せを……ッ、雪とともに歩む幸せを与えてくれ!」
"Grant me the happiness of being able to live together with Yuki!"(edited)
8:55 AM
...we're instantly knocked out by this flash of white(edited)
8:56 AM
we hear Yuki's voice "what the...? what is going on?"
8:56 AM
"Mia...! Mia...!"
8:58 AM
"Yuki...!"
8:58 AM
Kaneda! Tetsuo!!
9:00 AM
「この結末は、正直、予想外ではあるけれど」
Yalbha: "Honestly, I didn't really expect this outcome"
Mia is happy that Yuki desires her now that she's a woman
9:47 AM
and so is she happy that she's still into Yuki
9:48 AM
「名前……呼んで、くれよ…………」
「…………うん……」
「…………みあ……」
"call me my name...
"...yeah..."
"...Mia..."
9:48 AM
and then they kiss
9:49 AM
...timeskip...
「っは~~……何かすっごいなぁ。ずっと見てられる」
"aaaaaah... this is so amazing, I can keep watching it forever."(edited)
9:50 AM
"you've said it before too"
"haha, you know"
9:52 AM
from what Mia says now, it feels like she has more of a baby fever than Yuki(edited)
9:53 AM
Mia's kinda worried that of course it's not gonna be all shiny, and that of course, parenting is gonna be a problem, and also the fact the child has two mommies
9:53 AM
but still, Mia wants the kid to be happy, from the bottom of her heart
9:54 AM
the child is a girl
9:55 AM
Mia thanks Yuki for giving birth to her, Yuki thanks Mia too
9:55 AM
9:57 AM
"I'm so happy right now"
"and so I am"
and so, with teary eyes, we smiled at each other
This is really cute, genuinely way better than any ending in any GB VN I've played. I'm a bit disappointed we didn't get a gay sex CG, but I was more interested for the conversation between Yuki and the MC and the emotional closure there, and we got that.
I guess the moral of the story is that if you go for a honeymoon to propose to your gf in an obscure faraway castle, make sure she's bisexual first(edited)
I guess the moral of the story is that if you go for a honeymoon to propose to your gf in an obscure faraway castle, make sure she's bisexual first (edited)
I guess the moral of the story is that if you go for a honeymoon to propose to your gf in an obscure faraway castle, make sure she's bisexual first (edited)
bummed damythf and the manager seem to be the only men and both suck, was kind of hoping for a relatively wholesome-adjacent transhet sort of ending but that was always a long shot given the genre
"After all, leaving aside the baby-making part"
"Feeling good while in a woman's body is clearly on a way different level than while as a guy"
6:23 PM
my speculation: this is the "body's voice" that was mentioned before that I had assumed it was all metaphorical, but I guess maybe it became so strong it's actually taking over
6:23 PM
maybe this route will end with full identity death(edited)
6:25 PM
the voice pretty much keeps tempting MC further that until we turn back to our prior body, why not keep enjoying ourselves
and after further desperate cries, we fall, lose consciousness and wake up IRL
6:38 PM
okay, so, this part is gonna be obvious to vast majority of people who played at least one visual novel, but I feel like I need to bring it up anyway
6:39 PM
the game marks any dialogue I've already seen as grey, and also provides the option to skip it through up till we encounter the line we have not already seen
6:39 PM
and since obviously we don't want to repeat the same stuff we had before, I will be skipping stuff very liberally
the devils voices in MC's brain explain to her that it's because during that time when you were asked what was it you wanted to redo, it was refusing Damythf
7:29 PM
(さぁ、みあ……今度こそ、正しい選択をしてね)
"Okay, Mia, now, make the correct choice this time."
Even though... Yuki is waiting for me.
I betrayed her.
8:05 PM
will I be able to pass through the witch trial like originally planned... and return to Yuki?
8:05 PM
after already having betrayed her?
8:06 PM
in that case why not just stay in this world forever
8:07 PM
forget about Yuki and stay a woman...?
8:07 PM
MC cries out sadly
8:08 PM
MC reaches the top, opens the door
8:08 PM
the outside is full of snow
8:08 PM
how ironic
8:09 PM
a snowflake hits our face
8:09 PM
like a stone thrown at a sinner
8:10 PM
we keep walking in this heavy snow(edited)
8:13 PM
I feel a floating sensation enveloping my body. What I felt at that moment wasn't fear... It wasn't fear. It was relief... that this would make me feel better. That's why I didn't scream, but rather I kept [climbing?] the spiral staircase...
8:13 PM
MC falls down
8:15 PM
there's a cut and we see this
8:16 PM
「みあも、もっと素直に楽しめばよかったのにね」
「そうしたら、幸せになれたのに……残念だったね」
"Mia, you should have be honest and enjoyed yourself more."
"If you did that, you would have been happy... How unfortunate."
8:18 PM
okay I'm not sure what exactly happened
8:19 PM
but my interpretation is that MC decided to kill herself by walking outside during the incredibly heavy snowstorm
8:20 PM
there is no direct explanation for what follows(edited)
8:20 PM
but the devils speak out to the shiny crystal as if it was Mia(edited)
8:22 PM
presumably what happens after you die is that the devil that you become this (spiritual?) crystal and Mahzanar, who was earlier said to be the god of death, will keep you safe
Mahzanar goes like "hey, what's the hold up? are you concerned that my body looks like of a child? if this is what you desire, I can turn into an adult"
I have this idea of exporting the history of this thread and anonymizing the people commenting in order to publish it to wider audience, but I feel like at this point I need permission from everyone who participated in here
11:17 AM
because even if I replace the nicks and avatars with something else
11:17 AM
there could be stuff that's too personal here
11:19 AM
I guess next thread I'll make I'll start with an explicit forewarning
mlem-chan
I have this idea of exporting the history of this thread and anonymizing the people commenting in order to publish it to wider audience, but I feel like at this point I need permission from everyone who participated in here
MC's like "why am I feeling good when he praises me", following him saying how good he feels after MC stares at him with her passionate eyes and the way she uses her tongue(edited)
MC goes all the way with the blowjob, including swallowing, and is like "ha ha ha, what now old man, I'm totally gonna make you go so hard you'll faint", but even after all that he's still hard
12:02 PM
Damythf laughs, stops her from continuing (she was reaching for his uretha with her tongue), and is like, I need to take care of business, wait for me in the room
12:02 PM
「今夜、孕ませてやる」
"This night, I'll impregnate you"
12:03 PM
the existent womb goes kyun
mlem-chan
MC goes all the way with the blowjob, including swallowing, and is like "ha ha ha, what now old man, I'm totally gonna make you go so hard you'll faint", but even after all that he's still hard
MC wonders if her being pregnant in the dream world will affect her going back
12:57 PM
and also that if Damythf is able to do something about the witch trial, why is MC here in the first place
1:00 PM
the devils come in and say there's no deep meaning behind it, and Damythf wants her
1:00 PM
so MC asks the devils
1:01 PM
「この身体で、妊娠は……できるのか? できたとして、俺はどうなるんだ?」
"Can this body... get pregnant? If it happens, what will happen to me?"
1:03 PM
「みあが妊娠したいと望めば、ちゃんと妊娠できる」
"If Mia's desire is to get pregnant, you'll definitely be able to do it."
1:04 PM
"And if Mia's desire is to keep living here, then this wish can also be granted"
1:09 PM
the devils say outright that they summoned Mia for purposes of the witch trial, but Damythf already took this condition down, so depending on what is the Mia's desire, she can stay in this world, she can go back to real world
1:09 PM
"and can I go back to being a man?"
"if that's what you desire, yes"
tbh I think I'm kinda conflicted on this one, there's a possibility that at this point Mia is actually rejecting the possibility of wanting to go back as a man(edited)
I visited so many cities, and countries, and had sex with many men.
Some of them even with all honestly asked me to become their lover, some of them asked to get married.
2:25 PM
MC is still seeking more pleasure though, and so, later on, in some high-class saloon, with all rich bigwigs(edited)
2:28 PM
she asks who in the audience would be willing to satisfy her
2:29 PM
some women are in there looking disgusted at her, but generally the audience likes her
2:29 PM
the vibrators fall out and she asks who's willing to put it in her
I visited so many cities, and countries, and had sex with many men.
Some of them even with all honestly asked me to become their lover, some of them asked to get married.
I have this idea of exporting the history of this thread and anonymizing the people commenting in order to publish it to wider audience, but I feel like at this point I need permission from everyone who participated in here
also I have a candidate for what could be the next game, but I'd have to solve a few technical issues first (it's a game in Unity and attaching Textractor doesn't seem to work too well, and also running it in Windows virtual machine seems kinda slow)
tbh I think I'm kinda conflicted on this one, there's a possibility that at this point Mia is actually rejecting the possibility of wanting to go back as a man (edited)
okay so I went back to this conversation within the game (which is good, as, to be honest, I was rushing through the game too fast), and now when I read it again, what is happening is that MC's words are on about wanting to return back to being a guy, but actions and thoughts are very much not
1:08 PM
when he asks the devils if he can turn back, he does it with hesitation
At first i expected mia to be the managers personal fucktoy or some local brothel slut in the third ending but as you described it she turned to a globetrotting call girl that was nice
1:53 PM
Fourth ending is probably just going to be all about babymaking for damytf
Mia is officially a boykisser as she was the one who kissed him(edited)
3:08 PM
MC, just from the kiss, melts from pleasure, and wants to do it more and more
3:08 PM
she feels his dick getting erect and feels like she wants it to penetrate her
3:10 PM
yup, she wants the D(amythf)'s D
3:10 PM
(ごめんな……雪、ほんとに……ごめん)
"I'm sorry... Yuki.... I'm really... sorry..."
3:12 PM
and yeah MC gives up on her in this ending too, which means that submitting yourself to the demons is essentially how you stop being loyal to the gf in this game
"for our first time... for our first time... you decided to go with the <insert the name of the sexual position where one person lifts the other>? what the hell?"
"sheesh, you're the worst! idiot! fool! you damn womanizer bastard!"
3:40 PM
but also MC internally feels too good
3:43 PM
Damythf's like "despite how you say it's 'the worst', you seem to be enjoying it"
3:44 PM
"never before I had a woman get so tight for my dick"
3:44 PM
and MC's like "see? this is why you're the worst"
3:46 PM
I'm being told I'm giving him more pleasure than the previous women did
as if being told that would make a woman happy... you unbelievable fool!
3:47 PM
and soon afterwards MC is like "hey, I'm the idiot here! why am I so happy about this?"
3:49 PM
Damythf's like "hey, as a guy, it makes me so proud on how much pleasure I'm giving you, but can you keep your voice a bit quiet?"
3:49 PM
oh yeah they're in the tower rn
3:50 PM
"if your voice goes outside of the tower, people will start thinking there are ghosts in there"
MC's like "it's the first time I feel so good, Damythf"
4:30 PM
then he cums inside her once again, with MC doing nothing but speaking out his name
4:32 PM
following that they keep moving (presumably walking up the staircase), they reach the bed, they do it 3 times in the missionary position, 1 time while spooning, 2 times from the back(edited)
okay so basically MC became a big tsundere which includes calling him "womanizer", "scumbag" and "good-for-nothing"
5:44 PM
Damythf's is so aroused by Mia's face full of tears
5:44 PM
also Mia was like "don't worry about me, just cum already"
5:51 PM
after all this, Mia's like "it's okay if you're trying to make me feel good, or you wanna go easy on me, but, just focus on cumming yourself, I wanna make you feel good too"
btw, I encountered a discussion about this VN, which supposedly says that the main writer dropped his involvement with this VN in the middle of its development, and then other people continued it?(edited)
Lmfaoooo, I was hoping Damythf had at least a little bit of self awareness to be like "so you may be wondering how I got them to cancel the witch trial" but no
and while Damythf is negotiating with some subordinate on some issue that happens within his territory, Mia is giving Damythf a paizuri under the table
6:33 PM
6:33 PM
(I wanted to write "boobjob" but then I realized this word has a different meaning, but I also forgot the english word for it)(edited)
Mia getting Damythf on the operating table so she can give him boobies too
6:56 PM
Mia keeps making Damythf good, to the point Damythf squirms a bit too much and the guy asks what's going on and then Damythf dismisses him saying he'd like to think on the issue alone for a bit
6:56 PM
Mia's like "risking that you're gonna be found out excites you, doesn't it"
6:58 PM
and Damythf's like you know what, I was in the middle of something and I couldn't focus and instead I thought of dragging you out of there and fucking you in front of the guy(edited)
6:59 PM
and boast in from of him how his woman can make such indecent voices
6:59 PM
"heh heeeeh" - Mia
7:00 PM
and then follows like "yeah no he can't actually do that you know"
7:00 PM
also hey where's Chlerna
7:01 PM
I legitimately want the threesome between them
7:05 PM
「お、俺の……ッ、俺のおっぱいま●こで、もっと気持ち良くなって……くれッ」
"m-make me feel even better... with my [ore]... boob-pussy"
7:06 PM
MC hesitates to use this phrase because it's a porn phrase used in XXI century porn apparently(edited)
7:06 PM
「いっぱい、精液……出してッ……。おっぱいだって、妊娠する、くらいに……ッッ」
"cum so hard... splash my boobs so hard with semen to the point they'll get pregnant"
7:07 PM
it was very effective on Damythf(edited)
7:11 PM
more time passes
7:12 PM
Mia keeps having sex with him every day(edited)
7:13 PM
oh hey it's Chlerna
7:13 PM
she checks on MC's health (presumably because there was a problem) and it seems she's okay(edited)
7:14 PM
and Chlerna's like "well I'm actually impressed you managed to hold up until now"
7:16 PM
and also follows that she's grateful that Mia's listened to her selfish request and she's like "nah, not really selfish, I wanted to do it on my own"
7:16 PM
and she's like "yeah but still. anyway, don't push yourself"
7:18 PM
oh hey we have some pregnancy sex now
7:21 PM
okay so basically Chlerna checked MC out and said that MC can have sex in this situation now, and previously she couldn't, and all that time she was spending together with Chlerna
7:21 PM
Damythf is more concerned about Mia now
7:26 PM
they exchange words of love
7:28 PM
Damythf cums inside her
7:29 PM
MC's like "I didn't expect you to cum so easily, normally guys need some more stimulation" and Damythf's like "yeah I wouldn't be able to do it if it was any other woman"
7:29 PM
and then they exchange how much they love each other
7:29 PM
then we get the devils speaking to her brain(edited)
7:29 PM
"hey Mia" "are you happy?"
7:29 PM
or so she thinks
7:30 PM
Damythf's like "Mia, something's wrong?" "no, it's nothing" and then they kiss
7:31 PM
「俺も……」
そう言って、ふと言葉を切って、最初から言い直す。
「私も、愛してるよ……」
"me [ore] too..."
so I said, followed by interrupting myself, and starting from the beginning
"me [watashi] too, I love you..."
okay so I checked out the CG gallery and the scene gallery
7:34 PM
and it seems we got them all
7:34 PM
and therefore we reached all the content the game has to offer
7:36 PM
ngl I wish the Damythf route had a threesome, and also I kinda wished to see a CG where Mia is with the kids she birthed (I mean, doesn't the guy want to have a son so he becomes his successor? then clearly they have to try for more of them just in case)(edited)
7:36 PM
but I guess pregnancy sex is the best we'll get here(edited)
7:39 PM
the fact that the route 1 has way more story to it suggests it's the True End, and the others are something the player encounters when making a mistake
7:39 PM
in terms of game mechanics
7:40 PM
...and therefore shorter
mlem-chan
btw, I encountered a discussion about this VN, which supposedly says that the main writer dropped his involvement with this VN in the middle of its development, and then other people continued it? (edited)
The thing is that the game was originally being completely written/devised by LIBERYWORKS/Flypaper but he left the development team midway through the project and it ended up being completed by other writers. So it's kinda a miracle that the game was released in the first place.
You can read more about the author's involvement and about his passion for TS content here. Don't need to pay anything, just follow him and the full article will become availible.
so anyway, my current headcanon is that what happened before the story began was this(edited)
7:57 PM
Damythf: "hey don't you think it would be funny if I summoned a random guy from the future and feminized him to the point of me fucking him on regular basis"
Chlerna: "oh yeah lol totally, I'm gonna pretend I don't really know about your plan, but contribute to it anyway"
...
Damythf: "uhhhhh, the demons told me they have to sacrifice someone's fertility to do it"
Chlerna: "okay I'll volunteer. you can just change his body so it looks like mine and then make him have our babies"
Damythf: "deal"(edited)
(pasting in case I'm gonna get someone to interpret this whether this means that the trial itself was cancelled, or maybe that they went through the trial, and the accusations were cancelled)(edited)
11:10 PM
because currently I'm reading as the former
mlem-chan
「正確には、その可能性だな。当時、クラーナは懐妊していなかったのでな」
"To be accurate, it is possible. During that time, Chlerna wasn't pregnant"
also I guess I'll need to check out the Damythf's words here
11:16 PM
MC definitely deduced that it is possible to sacrifice their ability to have children, and definitely did so because then they had an entire conversation about it with Yuki(edited)
11:18 PM
now, the specific wording would suggest whether Damythf's sacrificed Chlerna's(edited)
11:18 PM
the story is contradictory otherwise
mlem-chan
the alternative is that we could assume that events in one route are not necessarily are true in other routes (edited)
this is what I thought would be the case with Damythfs intentions tbh
mlem-chan
The thing is that the game was originally being completely written/devised by LIBERYWORKS/Flypaper but he left the development team midway through the project and it ended up being completed by other writers. So it's kinda a miracle that the game was released in the first place.
You can read more about the author's involvement and about his passion for TS content here. Don't need to pay anything, just follow him and the full article will become availible.
interesting, I wonder if the author is an egg from reading the contents of your playthrough or it's your lenses leaking through (although I don't think a translation can change someone explicitly stating outright they are bi or the number of CGs that indicate the conclusion that the story reached to)
given all the content, it's quite cute how heartfelt the first ending is(edited)
7:23 AM
anyways thank you for the blessed readthrough, this is just amusing to see that this is a thing
I'd say that I think you have to be certain amount of Gender™, and while not exactly trans (the phrasing "cis+" exists for a reason), but you have to have some gender feels to write something that channels these feels(edited)
mlem-chan
I'd say that I think you have to be certain amount of Gender™, and while not exactly trans (the phrasing "cis+" exists for a reason), but you have to have some gender feels to write something that channels these feels (edited)
yeah wouldn't surprise me if they are somewhere on the Gender™️ scale(edited)
7:28 AM
I was going to say "I doubt the chances of its chances of being localized", but I notice that the maker of this game has other titles localized by Shiravune.
The protagonist, Soichi Akano, was a failed student who could not study. He is confronted by Tsukino Himemiya, the student council president, who is the most talented girl in the school. He confronts Tsukino about his test results and gets slapped in front of everyone. He is determined to get his grades up and get back at her, but he was alway...
I think it has a decent shot at getting localized by Shiravune if they already have preexisting connections, but who knows. Shiravune's licensing decisions is an opaque box.
7:30 AM
Anyways, brb, throwing it into Shiravune's Suggestion Forum.
And thrown it in there. Probably will have no effect, but I suppose it's chances are a bit higher than I thought since I thought this game was being done by some small doujin group but no it turns out to be a group that has already several localized titles.
7:39 AM
I don't think I did a good job of selling its case to get localized, but eh. Worth a shot.
mlem-chan
I guess maybe I'll be able to verify it later on how close I was to understanding what was going on there